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Long Island Irish

Three more everyone! Just 3 more post and this is the most commented picture of all time! Come on I know we can do it!!!

tricia

I don't really want to keep adding to this endless post, either---I'll see if I can ever stop! But I do want to just say I appreciated Vermont Neighbor's comment, it said things that hadn't been said, that Brad seems to be a selfish person himself. His photo spread was in bad taste, to say the least.

I don't think anyone meant to imply that couples who like to do things together mean the man is a pull-toy---or the woman. But does AJ, say, love Brad for himself---what there is of him---or for what she can compel him to do? Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, but that level of it would get on my nerves. And Mr Pitt has often morphed into whatever woman he happened to be with, which to me connotes a kind of hollowness. That's different from hanging out and doing things together or for each other, it really is. Look, AJ used to be married to Billy Bob Thornton, who has a strong personality of his own. They were wild and passionate together. But she didn't imitate him, he didn't imitate her. They shared some oddities---blood vials, I seem to remember!---but they were both a couple and two strong people. It didn't work out unltimately. But I kind of think she will get bored, eventually, with someone this easily led, just as a man might get bored with an overly submissive or impressionable woman. And I don't bring feminism into this because frankly it has nothing to do with feminism to me. I don't consider them feminist trailblazers. Their choices are private (well, not really...), self-serving, and they're working out for them. So far. But it's not especially inspirational, it's a couple with much more money than most of us will ever see, with bodyguards, nannies, multiple homes. Of course they can do what they want, of course they can. Comparing him to nice husbands and fathers who love to participate and help in child-rearing and love their wives' careers is insulting to the real guys. Ones who don't leave their wives and get a girlfriend pregnant.

Una Reina

"Thoroughly unprepared, we take the step into the afternoon of life; worse still, we take this step with the false assumption that our truths and ideals will serve us hitherto. But we cannot live the afternoon of life according to the program of life's morning; for what was great in the morning will be little at evening, and what in the morning was true will at evening have become a lie." - Carl Jung

The choices I made when I was your age "Mistress Jolie" and with a similar attitude are far different than the choices I make know. There is no way I would want to be your age again I love my life as it is now. I've learned a few things over the years ... like the importance of compromise, kind words, and acceptance. Or, the value of losing sometimes over winning. How harsh words destroy respect, and how games & tactics break down communication. That when you find something truly wonderful, you better cherish it or you are bound to loose it. Lessons all taught in the School of Life if only one is open to do so.

My father once told me that women are like wine. A young woman is like a Nouveau Beaujolais. Fresh and with promise. But like wine , a woman could turninto a vinegar or age like a fine Bordeaux that one wants to savor each sip slowly. I am aging into a fine old bordeaux, The kind you only find at fine wine stores.

You Mistress Jolie sound like you are Ripple or Boonesfarm.

Mero

Ok I'm up late..I'll post. This is sad but true. Sad because it's the kids who will suffer over this relationship, I'm almost certain will end, rather quickly too. Three kids in one year? Wow that's a lot of stressers even for the rich. If it lasts, then then I'll be amazed and know I judged wrongly.

Long Island Irish

This is so amazing! Look at all the post here. Come on everyone--lets just keep on posting and make this the top commented post! Just a few more comments, everyone together now whether you're routing for AJ or JA let's keep these somewhat pyscotic (but difinitely hilarious) post a coming!!!

13

oh come on now some of you....not ALL women in their 40's and 50's are bitter and angry. I know that's hard to believe by reading some of these comments, but I swear, I've met some nice ones in my days and they didn't seem to judge me harshly just because I'm in my 20's. They dressed a little funny, but what do expect from old people?

Vermont Neighbor

Great thread and some terrific input.

I've learned much, and 14's painting really brought out the dialogue. Yes, with society's current obsession of fixating on celebrities, I see no future for us but to self-destruct! We should study the Romans, not the tabloids.

While people may see Brad and Angelina as saving the family unit, I don't know that to be true. I believe Brad has definitely hitched his wagon to someone else's dreams, and frankly, his interest in humanitarian work should begin with his ex-wife. Choosing Angelina for the film role while his marriage was in trouble? Let's be real in what his actual intentions were.

I'm sure that he had a deeply distressed marriage at that point, but his choices have been appalling and galling. Consider the 30-page cover spread (which he secured the rights to), in which he flaunted his relationship with Jolie as a couple enjoying the height of sexual suburban bliss. Anyone care to be Jennifer the week that came out? I couldn't believe the set-up, or what he possibly could've been thinking. That was an amazingly inappropriate and cruel thing to engineer, mere weeks into his divorce proceedings.

These 3 stars will always have more money than most, and likely all the fame that goes with it. With that fame and cushy life comes the scrutiny, the cruelty, the delicious gossip-y conjecture that the rest of us will never experience -- in our own lives or during our own humiliating defeats.

JA: Probably insecure and difficult to live with, and a person who wrongly expected nurturing from a classically handsome/pretty man... a man who, as nice as he may be, never had to develop the skills of giving, kindness and empathy because he's always dazzled people with his looks. It's not his fault.

But both she and he are responsible for the end of their marriage.

AJ: Really only faltered when telling the press that she was not / and would not date a married man. The other mistake - introducing a boyfriend to the children - well, we have to cut her slack on that. She possibly knew at the time that he was going to be in her life for the long haul. I don't know though, from her track record, that she can stick with him for more than a year or two. She moves too fast. When the 'new-ness' wears off, her plane will fly.

These people also hire photographers now to package their image for the tabloids; there's less paparrazzi-style coverage than back in the days of Ron Galella.

Brad is intrigued by the concept of humanitarianism....as a career perk or a means to temper his own guilt. Were he truly kind of heart, he wouldn't impregnate his girlfriend while his equally-famous wife was still adjusting to the glare and scrutiny of divorce. And that's why his supposed interest in saving the world is sketchy at best. No track record so far.

I'm not a member of Team Aniston or Team Jolie because I think both women have a right to live their lives. Brad has intersected each of their destinies. To counter the assumption of more than a few posts in this thread... no; I wouldn't want him in my future. (Anyone see how much William H. Macy adores Felicity Huffman? Now, that is husband material! You can have Brad Pitt... because a lot of us don't like his package. At all.)

I think Pitt is basically selfish, on the prowl, and generally in search of the next trend du jour to feed his ego and imagination. Apparently, Jolie and he are looking at homes in the D.C. area, so I'm betting they hope to be a 'power' couple, a sexy Hollywood version of Ron and Nancy, with the lady leading in reverse. Jolie will continue to earn goodwill appointments and Brad will continue to follow.

I do think Aniston might have finally seen a difficult, self-absorbed man and likely realized that children would be a huge mistake. Hey, if she's as desperate for eternal Hollywood stardom as some here have written, why not bear Brad's kids, suck it in and keep landing the bigger roles.

Aniston was excellent in The Good Girl, a role that should've gotten her a nomination. Her next film (with Catherine Keener) is supposed to be something special too, and I wish her all the best. It's a situation that asks her to constantly respond to the media, and then gets the public upset when she does.

Not a Breeder

lylian, you halfwit. I'm 44 and I thought the illustration was laugh out loud funny. When you're gassing on about how uptight people over 40 are, leave me the hell out of your li'l demographic, ok? We're not all uptight mommies looking to blame society and men for our problems, MOST OF WHICH ARE SELF CREATED.

stargazer

Cant resist sharing this hilarious post (by jayjay) from webby of "A Socialite's Life"
Hohohoho....

Angelina Jolie Fears Brad Pitt Will Leave Her After Baby is Born [National Ledger]

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Phoenix said:
Nah, he won't leave her. Not after all he's done to be with her. It is suprising to see her insecure though. Shit, is that what pregnancy does to you or maybe it's guilt?

Posted on March 10, 2006 03:58 PM

JayJay said:
Yah, he will leave her for another man in June.
I see it in the stars. According to the astrological line up, Saturn is going through the Prime Meridien knows as Uranus, this will have many influences on Bradley. He will succumb to his inner-most desires and become brokeback. This in turn will have Jolie fleeing to live in Haiti and forgoing all luxury items like nannies, bodyguards and the pesky photographers that she used to call to track her every move to make her more acceptable in the publics eye. All this backfired, because Mercury ascended into Uranus and caused a build-up of bad KARMA.

Posted on March 10, 2006 04:10 PM

JayJay said:
Although Bradley is secretly in love with Gwyneth Paltrow, he still can't stand her family and thinks that they are a bunch of phoney baloney. He likes that way that white blond girl looks, it appeals to his mid-western white values where he eschews HOLEYWOOD and wants to be whiter than white. Alas, it is not meant to be. So when he hooked up with Jolie he didn't know her brother was a freaky fag or did he? and that her mother is psychotic or did he? Bradlee be shakin in his boots and even Clummey can't bail him out of this mess. Clummey told him, you leave Jen and the world is going to look at you like you are cock-eyed. But Bradlee he no listen, he wants a BABY. He tried to get preggers himself through that Korean Program but it didn't take and he couldn't clone hisself.

lylian

To 14, your drawing has triggered of debate. Whether you actually reflected on the underlying presumptions of your drawing or not, I don't know. But I do know, on reading the comments that those of us who are over 40 won't find it too amusing a satire. Your so called satirical drawing is not satire but a kow-towing to centuries old imagery - that of a woman dominatrix with male slave. The only satirical element about what you've done is to put it in the context of Brad and Angelina. If you were to try to do a drawing which celebrates this role reversal, I doubt, you can do it. Our society does not celebrate a strong woman leading a man. It has only just accepted it. So no, I don't find your drawing funny, just depressing.

Our mothers were at the cutting edge of feminism. I am 40 and belong to the next generation. We got "equal" pay (though statistics continue to show that women actually get about 75% of a man's wages for the same work), but breaking through the glass ceiling remains very very difficult if you want to have children too. It's not a surprise that women such as Carly Fiorina and Condoleeza Rice are childless. It's no coincidence that Hilary Rodham felt necessary to add Clinton to her name when Bill was running for presidency.

Imagery such as yours laughs at a grim reality for women who struggle to juggle work with family, who struggle to be taken as serious leaders and managers in corporations, who struggle to realise their dreams when their time, energy and thoughts are taken up by having to remember to do the laundry, pick up junior from school, figure out what to feed the family, keep the gorceries list and do the grocery shopping, remember to remind hubby that junior has to be dropped off for soccer practise, remind him to pick up the dry cleaning. I know of 2 mothers who have to wake up at 5.00 am to write their novel for an hour - their passion, because once the children and husband wake up, there's not time to think after 7.00 am. Why can't daddy wake up a bit earlier to prepare the breakfast?? Coz, they are REAL MEN.

Iolee

Don't about that blog. I thought it was a stupid observation and very obvious that it was a fan of Jen. Aniston who made it. Whatever, I really don't care what those negative people will say about Brad and Angie. I'm happy that they are together and building a family and helping the unfortunate. The fact that they are the two most gorgeous beings to ever hooked up fascinates me. So, go Brangelina. Brad, it takes a real man to be able to handle Angie and she knows it and that's why she is carrying your baby. Good luck to you both and the children.

Mistress Jolie

una

shut up you bitter old shrew, just shut the hell up and go soak in your lonely granny bath of bitter water and Jean Nate while you drink your vodka lonely and empty. This blog of "people in their 20's" officially throws your tired old ass out on the pavement. Go hang out with energy suckers your own age. Go hang out with those delusional old coots who call them the "ladies who wear red hats", which is just another way to say "ladies who are bitter, ageist and frigid who have no sense of humor so they wear red hats as some sort of last inkling of identityy to youth and happiness, but the red hat is only a crutch to stave off the inevitable fact that they are indeed bitter old shrews with no life no matter what color hat the post menopausal hag is wearing." They would throw you out dude because you're bitter old energy would bring them down. no not even the 50 year old set wants you around them.

Yes, you are better than all of us because you make false assumptions and are judgemental and have problems with people in their 20's BECAUSE YOU ARE JEALOUS AND OLD!!!! Go hang out on blogs for grannies, okay? We don't need to witness your pitiful descent to the grave.

Eddie

I don't really care much about celebrities, but Angelina seems a better fit for Brad and I see why he'd dump Jennifer for her, seeing as how Jen's film career isn't doing so hot. Angelina and Brad have more range in acting and I can see why they are so popular and will be for a long time. Jennifer Aniston doesn't really have that much of a presence in film and she seems more appropriate to play supporting roles. Her best years are behind her. Her career has mimicked Sandra Bullocks, first playing the sweetheart for several films, then taking some roles in thriller and serious movies, except Sandra does it much better.

Beth

PS I love the fact that the comments in this blog are moderated!!

Beth

Wow does that mean my husband is a pull toy too since we have the same interests?? Oh get this my husband won't get out of the car until I start. Does that make him a pull toy?? We LIKE to kinda match to compliment each other, does that mean my husband is a pull toy?? We love our children very much and my husband frequently takes them out alone so I can have some "mommy time" does that mean my husband is a pull toy?? Naw, I don't think so....

tricia

I just looked at Topix.net. Scary! If you can get past the illiteracy, childishness, stalker-worship of AJ (no wonder she moved to Europe!), and naive faith that she didn't have sex with Brad until after his divorce was final, thereby getting pregant---oh and they're promising the baby won't be born in May, but later, as May would destroy their religion---then it's almost funny.

But sad, too.

tricia

Actually, I don't think the tabloids or this site heartily approve of men being "in charge". They've talked alot about Tom Cruise "leading" Katie Holmes around, dragging her to Australia when she's super-pregnant, etc. I think he's an asshole, and I'd be disgusted if BP treated AJ like that, though given their temperaments I think that would be impossible. She's very strong, he's more of a follower. I think it's mainly amusing, as is seen in the cartoon, because he's such a chameleon. It reminds me of those couples you sometimes see with matching outfits. He has really changed with each woman, he doesn't seem to know who he is, and now he's decided to Be Angelina, not just be with her. Some men are happy being pull toys, but how long was he happy being JA's toy? The guy sees relationships as temporary stays. Luckily for him, then, that AJ does, too.

Una Reina

First, 14 may remind that it also said that "one sees the world not as it really is but as they are." Anais Nin wrote this as well many others. Also what the study of ancient history teaches is that one of the first signs of the decline of any great civilization/empire, is the deterioration of the family unit.


Maybe it is because I am involved in life that I feel that I have earned my opinion. A lot of the work I do is work I never get paid for or get paid very little. But it makes me feel that I can make a difference for some children. It is a feeling that money cannot replace. May I suggest that you 14 and the peanut gallery who have posted on this thread, volunteer in a low income public school or a homeless shelter, battered women shelter etc. For those with emotional maturity and integrity may I suggest C.A.S.A. or Big Brothers and Big Sisters. Because you all need a reality check about life outside your cocoon. Because you are clueless to what is going on in society not only with children but the family unit. If you do not want to be a statistic then educate yourself on how to be a part of a healthy relationship , with your partner or with your children.

If as most of you seem to think I am full of whatever. That is your right. Your comments, ridicule etc. do not bother me as I know that the karmic pendulum of fate extols its own retribution . Life will prove my words if you learn what it has taught me.


Perhaps you will start thinking about the direction society is going. Maybe it is because unlike most you , I am not a member of generation X or the self-gratification and entitled generation.

I started as a therapist for the public school system. I went to law school because I felt so impotent when it came to helping a child legally.

I work children with parents with attitudes that reflect many of the attitudes of some of you. Today I was able to help an 11 year old girl from a home where the mother is more concerned that she will be without a boyfriend than that he is molesting her child.

I unlike a lot of the posters I do pay attention to what is going on in the world. (One of my daughters has shown me some of the art work from time to time...) I am assuming that some you have heard about how the Muslim world responded to a cartoon? I know that like 14, he was just having with his opinion of the muslim world. You and I might agree, but ask the people who were killed or whose homes were burned if it was funny. Perhaps if the artist had put some thought to looking at it from a different perspective, he might have made a different decision.

I am not even going to bother responding in kind to the clueless child who has called me a liar or the other children who have made demeaning comments in my direction. To be honest it would not be fair as we are not on the same emotional intelligence and maturity level. And I cannot sink to your level and obviously you are not capable of rising to mine.


nermalz

I love the pic so have have no beef with that. I just think it is funny how everyone is making a federal case that he dumped Jennifer Aniston. Maybe I am mistaken, but is he first guy to ever do something of this nature? We don't live him so how do we know what Aniston was or wasn't doing that made him bolt. He could've left for his own selfish reasons, why do we have to blame the other woman. Pitt is a grown ass man, and if he let someone else do the thinking for him, that's on him. He isn't the first person in the universe to dump a spouse, if he was then i'd understand all the ruckus.

Kim Sullivan

Wow, Some of these people need serious therapy. The time it must have taken for them to compose their manifestos on Jennifer Aniston, Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie! I mean such strong feelings about people they don't even know. Jennifer, Brad and Angelina-- I don't feel sorry for any of them. They all have it much better than 99.9% of the souls on earth. I will say this, however. From the interviews I've seen and read, it seems to me that Angelina is a solid person who cares a lot about those less fortunate than her. She didn't follow a trend. She followed her heart. And in doing so, she's set a trend and now everybody it trying to emulate her. Maybe that's not such a bad thing? She is definately the most incredibly beautiful and sexy woman in the public eye. No one even comes close. I agree, she will leave Brad in a year or two. He will bore her after a while.

Titsy Pooparella

Ooooh! 14, would you PLEASE change the name of your blog to "Team Aniston" as Una Reina suggested? I would love that!

UnAmerican

Too true. Bread and circuses. It's much easier to rag on about Angelina as madonna/whore and Jennifer as bitter, barren career woman/dumped victim wife than it is to, oh, notice in all of this that women's rights to govern their own bodies are being chipped away state by state.

And we have a president who has his own little "security" police squad, investigating private citizens with no limits. A president who wants to sell the nation's ports to the same people who harbor and fund terrorists, and has a foot stamping tantrum, saying he'll veto any objections to the sale.

For all of those people who said "Bush and Kerry, they're all the same" I say a hearty FUCK YOU.

missy poo 2002

I think that they make a great couple and that people are only talking sh*t because of Jennifer and her wollowing *ss comments and pictures get the hell over it! They're grown *ss people and they have ALL moved on. And honestly, Brad has always morphed into the lady(ies) that he is dating. Take a look at old pictures and past romances!

14

Nice comments, but I'd like to add a new dimension to this debate by considering the following the statement:

When you can control the perceptions people have of reality, then you can control reality itself.

Ever wonder why so many of us are focused on celebrity gossip when far, FAR bigger issues are affecting our lives, our countries and our planet while we don't even notice it happening? Please note that I write "WE" because I'm just as guilty.

"Mass entertainment focusing on emotional and sensory stimulation has put Americans in danger of suffering the fate of the Romans, who entertained themselves into oblivion."

http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/2003/02-10-2003/vo19no03_bread.htm

something to think about...
now I must go paint Paris Hilton. groan.
; )
14

pinky

These people (the lovers of B and AJ)are the same on every thread about B and AJ or whatever you call it. They all know each other, it is hilarious. Do all of you realize that anyone who thinks this painting (which is all of you)is about feminism, racism or whatever other nonsense, are reading way to into it, as usual. To insult those under 40 yrs of age and to say they have not experienced anything is a bunch of BS and easy way (in your mind) to insult others. Seriously, no one cares how intelligent or what career you are in because let's face it, it is pathetic that any of us are writing about this Hollywood charade. I will admit it, at the moment my life is pretty lame so instead of watching T.V. I read celebrity blogs, why? Because it requires no brains, I do not have to think about my own life and people write funny things. Stop trying to make anything posted negatively about B and AJ about real issues because these people DO NOT LIVE IN THE REAL WORLD.
The funny part is these two and sadly their kids will never be left alone by the paps regardless of where they move to.

karin

I find it nothing short of flabbergasting that so many of you obviously have nothing better to do with your time than sit around and formulate half-baked opinions and suppositions about people whom you do not know. Do you spend this much time analyzing your OWN life?
As to 14's alleged racism, what on earth are you talking about? Is it now an act of racism to draw someone who is of any other race besides caucasian? Please go back to doing whatever it was you were doing before you began assaulting all of us with the silly ramblings of your tiny little minds.

lylian

Una, I'm just really disappointed with the blogs which label Brad "whipped". The tabloids scream it out - because Brad lets AJ "lead" him. But if Brad were leading AJ, they would say, AJ has been "tamed" by a real MAN. This sort of positioning insults all MEN and all WOMEN.

40 years of feminism and we have some bloggers who are still in the teens or 20s who still fall for this sort of thinking humiliating stereotyping - that a woman who leads a man is a dominatrix and the man is whipped (unless she taking the leadership position on female approved situations like cooking or taking care of baby). I read somewhere that if you really want to change someone, you have to go back 200 years. I guess there's another 160 years to go.

Not a Breeder

Una, Una, Una. So you're a mother. That's nice. But guess what? You can be married and over 40 and still think this picture is funny. Not all of us lost our sense of humor when we turned 40. It's a frickin' illustration of GOSSIP, you twit. Shouldn't you be getting your panties in a wad about something, oh, IMPORTANT? You're a womanly attorney, after all.

Simone de Beauvoir said: I am not against mothers. I am against the ideology which expects every woman to have children, and I'm against the circumstances under which mothers have to have their children.

PS. Simone de Beauvoir also said:
To catch a husband is an art; to hold him is a job.

PPS. Simone de Beauvoir was never married and never had children

tricia

I think it's very interesting that this has all turned out to be about children. Angelina was right to participate in breaking up a marriage because she gave him children, and Jennifer is a selfish, barren woman who dares to smoke, drink and tan, supposedly. (I think I'm going to hell...) Angelina fanatics pass quite a lot of judgment on a woman who was frankly dumped over, all so they can defend some pretty indefensible actons by their heroine and hero. Obviously, Jennifer has many advantages, she won't be financially destroyed, etc. But the end of a marriage, when you don't want the end of a marriage, *hurts*. Surely all the mothers here are aware of that, unless they've never had a broken heart, and then congratulations on being such supreme paragons of perfection. Now if they think having children puts them morally above everyone else, that's their choice, and I see why they worship Angelina. Obviously her baby bump makes up for everything she's ever done, and makes her infallible, right? I wonder what they'd think of her if she didn't have kids---would they say this is all about sex? And couldn't it be? Just a typical midlife crisis? Couched by Brad in self-pitying "I just wanna be a daddy" terms because he wants to be with Angelina and she's quite hot? Maybe women are too sappy, and easily manipulated by certain things, such as a charmingly willing pull toy. I've known very nice, submissive-seeming husbands who suddenly rebelled, bolted. Or rather cheat constantly behind the back of their trusting spouse. Maybe in her own way Jolie has been manipulated. Besides, saying Brad was right to leave his wife because she didn't have a baby yet (how very Henry VIII, I'm so glad they can't behead them anymore) is blind to the fact that many men leave marriages that already have children, or leave their wives when they're pregnant. (Often, as in this case, for younger, better-looking women. Non-pregnant ones, of course.) And that's cruel, too. Pregnancy and children won't guarantee happiness or fulfillment, and perhaps it never would have worked out for BP and JA anyway. I really hate when people say "suck it up, don't be hurt, don't feel", as if you have no right to feelings if you've been betrayed. Any expression of JA's feelings is seen as using pain for career advancement---the media chase her all around and demand that she talk about it. They pit her against her ex-husband and his girlfriend, but I suppose in Bizarroworld she's supposed to be totally stiff upper lip and emotionless, and probably grateful that the god Brad ever looked at her. Serves the bitch right for not popping out babies, right?

leann

14, you drew the caricature and i must say you are very talented and it's a darn good piece of art.

However I draw the conclusion from your piece that you are a female. A younger female who has not experienced life of parenthood , family and commitment.

I believe in freedom of speech. But it is up to the individual writer/artist to develop their own social responsibility. I believe one should put some thought to the message that they think they are communicating vs the message that others are reading or getting.

The tabliods and many bloggers obviously falls into the "younger age" category with less of a social reponsibilty to the general public. The message is one of self definition towards a focus narrow perspective.

karma chameleon

lUV Jen coz she's down to earth genuinely kind. And she's real like us with her many flaws. Who among us doesnt whine,luv to look great, enjoy spas, hang out with gfs..oh wait..the BAMZ fanatics!!! coz these uptight asses spend their time obsessing BAMZism, gobbling up on tabloids so that they can produce BAMZ related thesis and whatsmore patrolling forums 24/7 suffocating anybody who disagree with them

Aunt Aggie

Hey 14, dun let the BAMZ fanatics get you down with their theologies on fatherhood,humanitarianism,feminism etc They are on this crusade to indoctrinate the whole world to worship BAMZism and if you swim against their current, woe behold, you get labelled 'rabid' and a 'hater' .... going by all the posts, its pretty obvious who's turned into the real rabid haterS

blue moon

"And Brad? What is he doing? He has gone where everyone else has gone before and any minute now I'm expecting him to grow huge breasts to feed those kids."

Hey Jmarieb..hahaha..you're cracking me up...what a perfect situation it would be for AJ..it's a win win ..loverboy cum half woman to satisfy her heterosexual urges!

Dont worry be happy

I sit as the high judge on the court of justice and i say una reina is a fake and a liar and she is definitely from TEam Jolie. LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE! BAMZ freaky fanatics are real pain in the asses. And trust me, "Jessica,muse,lylian" etc whateva are the same bunch thats patrolling topix.net forums, breathing and knocking down on anything that whispers against BAMZ.

Hope you dun get cowed or intimidated by them. Naturally they are biased coz you dun see them wailing at yr other works. Dun let them stop your laughter!!!

Manly Man

Una I'm sure glad your not representing my kids. what kind of attorney has the time and maturity level to sit around and yammer about celebrities? You bitter old broads need to lighten up and stop taking everything so damn serious. Maybe your bra is on to tight lady. I think your a basketcase.

Una Reina

What Lylian alluded to is correct. We do seem to be divided in accordance to our age and relationship experience. You can read every book that has been written about motherhood and babies. But you can not understand until you become a mother. There is a world of difference in the definition of the word empathy and the word sympathy. I can be the most sympathetic person in the world and I would still be clueless as to what a parent whose child die feels. Simone de Bouvoire wrote
" we are all born girls... But we have to earn the right to be called "women". That is what differentiates the two groups of fans. Girls and Women.

14, Perhaps you might want to reread your introduction...specially your dedication to Jennifer and the following comment. It definitely communicates sympathy for one and ridicule for the other. You passed judgement if not by words, by the use of your talent to draw . You might as well have posted a "Team Aniston" on your site. I am sure we won't be seeing a caricature of Jennifer anytime soon. Correct?

For the record, I am on team,
"Let's be fair". I am an attorney who works as a court appointed victim advocate primarily with children.

Joan

I believe 14, what the poster UNA Reina is trying to say,is that you showed your bias by dedicating the drawing To Jennifer
Aniston. So what 14 is the quality of your intent? So how about dedicating one to Brad,showing what he is so lucky to be missing. An empty shell of a woman obsessed with her hair,tan,diet,botox and that next cigarette high.

pinky

14 well said or should I say "written". I get what you are doing and I say "cheers"! You are extremely talented and hopefully you do get paid for this.
I have to tell you something quick, two weeks ago I posted a snide comment about the "goddess AJ" on a blog (my first time ever) and the fanatics freaked out. They will interpret whatever you write or draw into what they what. You can keep writing comments back and they will not get it and only continue to rip on you personally and go off on a tangent. I can't believe I am writing comments again, but reading these comments fascinates me so much.

Monkeypants Bogdanovich

Someone has GOT to write a thesis about all of this. It's fascinating. Damn.

lylian

This thread goes to show that the ingrained mindset about Men having to be in charge, men having to be the leader men being the head of the family and women in a supportive role hasn't changed inspite of more then 40 years of feminism.

Many of your bloggers here are under the age of 40. I'd bet that no one would comment if it were Angelina who dyed her hair blond, and she is the one who plays with the children. The fact is, she actually dyed her hair in the Good Shepherd to blond and she does play with her children and care for them but, no one has made those comments about her coz, its natural right??? But for a man to be seen always with his children (and yes they are his too), carrying for them, playing with them, well, he's whipped.

So according to you bloggers who calls Brad whipped, a man who wants a family, is willing to let the woman in his life appear to take the leadership role is whipped. And you wonder why it is that in a divorce, women usually end up with less. You wonder why it is that when both husband and wife work, the wife still ends up doing more of the housework, you wonder why there is a glass ceiling in your society and why it is you've bumped into it already.

If you are a female writing about how whipped Brad is, and you keep this attitude, then I guarantee you that one day, you'll wonder why your husband doesn't take more responsibility with the children. Why it is that you are the one who is presumed to have primary care of the child and he'll only remember to change the diapers or take the kid for a walk when you ASK him. You'll wonder why your husband's life has barely changed when you have children (he'll still go to work, think about his corporate success, say he needs his time with the boys, pursues his hobbies) and yours have changed 180 degrees (even if you remain in the paid workforce) coz hey, when you get home from work, you are the one who has to think about what to feed the family, organise the groceries, do the laundry, ASK your Husband to take out the garbage, REMIND him to help junior with his homework, (coz if you don't ask or remind him, he'll forget coz he's not whipped like Brad, right??)

I say HURRAY for men like Brad who is happy to be hands on with his children. And you men and women, boys and girls who make comments about how Brad is "whipped", just examine your underlying assumptions about what leadership and suitable male/female roles should be. Do it especially if you are a female because the underlying presumptions you make is going to affect the men you choose to be the fathers of your children. Coz, if you want a real MAN, and not one who is "whipped" like Brad you may end up in a mummy track job or a dead end job doing most of the housework whilst he lives his dreams. Is this what you really want??

mindy

JA publicist known to pay off tabs and gossip columnist to write in favor of his clients. Take the GQ cover of the year. .GQ editor was JA's publicist younger brother Chris. Sensibily ..how else could JA or Vince even get on cover of the year .. unbelieveable.

And todate, Angelina does not have a publicist ..she hasn't had one for many years.

My point is this , when you present the view based on tab, they are biased , entirely biased. Take alook at all the tabs who write based on "TIPS" or "INSIDE SOURCE" ... these are the publicist manipulating the media to their client advantage .

It's no secret that JA has been over grossed .. Why not presents the facts of today for JA
- smoking chimney and a lung dart
- beach tanning and hair salon/split end queen
- drinking, partying, gambling
These are things that Jen has been doing right up to the past week. Why gross over these .

Damien

Firstly, loving the pic 14

Damn straight when is Brad gonna become his own man - and amen to needing to give Jennifer a break - heck the poor girl needs a break.
one would suggest shes well over brad these days...ummm hopefully (I doubt shes set up a shrine to Brad in her closet), again 14 loving it.

14

Everyone has the right to their opinion and I welcome all of them...but I'd like to clarify:

I create art based on existing celebrity gossip. I use gossip tabloids, gossip blogs and gossip forums as inspiration for my subject matter.

I came across two tabloids, one did a feature on how Angelina pulls Brad around and is always leading the way. There were accompanying photographs and to ME, he looked like a pull toy.

In another tabloid, there was a feature outlining how Brad copies everything that Angelina does. This article listed many examples and I included some in the text of my post.

The drawing reflects the tone of the gossip from MY perspective. I didn't add any commentary on fatherhood, jealousy, adoption, racism, motherhood or feminist theory.

I don't know Brad, Angelina or Jennifer Aniston personally and doubt many of you do either. I have no idea what they are really like or what they think.

I'm fascinated with gossip's power to create cartoon characters out of people. To me, it's a modern day carnival freak show. A public hanging. An ongoing memetic soap opera. We can't seem to get enough. Gossip is quite powerful as evidenced by some of these reader comments. The passion and emotion some of you feel toward people you don't even know fascinates me and provides fuel for future art projects. I'm not judging any of you at all and I appreciate the time you took to submit your opinions. Thanks for the inspiration and thanks for showing me that the whole "Team Jolie" and "Team Aniston" thing really does exist. I thought Star Magazine was making that stuff up!

love,
14

Una Reina

Given what 14 wrote as the introduction it is understandable why there are those who offended. The intention wasn't to amuse but rather to pass judgment and insult what should not be demeaned anymore than it already is by society in general. Fatherhood. There are too many children in this country who are growing up with absent fathers as it is. It is one thing to make fun of human weaknesses and flaws but it is another to ridicule a man for being a good parent and a good partner/husband. We women bitch that men don't help us with raising our kids and running a home but when we see a man who does, he is held up for ridicule. No wonder men turn to other men. I for one am glad that my husband is seeing pictures of Brad hauling kids and having lots of one an one time with each kid.

I appreciate 14 talent but in this case I think she made a poort choice in the subject matter. Make fun of Brad, but do not ridicule the positive nurturing role he has assumed in those children's life. There are too few fathers in the media who can be seen as positive role models for other fathers as it is.

doug

...and his girlfriend is a lesbian!
so he is not pussy-whipped, just whipped. and so deserving of it i might add. hope this passes the censors. btw, you do great work, and I'm not trying to kiss up to you.

Lady Di

This is a man in love and committed to his relationship. I am proud to say that in my very large family, whoever is pregnant is QUEEN BEE!! Whatever baby wants, baby gets! Only he knows what AJ is really going thru in her pregnancy. Being pregnant has it's ups and downs, our bodies change, our hormones are all over the emotional scale. He's trying to make her as happy as he can. What can I say, my husband was and still is a 'pull toy'. Now that's a man and love him and I am damn proud of him!!

mm

PEOPLE!!! TURN OFF YOUR COMPUTERS!!! GO HUG YOUR SIGNIFICANT OTHER, OR GET TO KNOW YOUR NEIGHBOUR! TRY ACKNOWLEDGING STRANERS ON THE STREET INSTEAD OF LOOKING AWAY PETRIFIED AT THE POSSIBILITY OF ACKWARD HUMAN CONTACT. THIS IS SATIRE PEOPLE, LOOK AND LAUGH AND GO BACK TO YOUR LIVES! WHAT A SAD AND ISOLATED SOCIETY WE HAVE BECOME, OBSESSING ABOUT MEDIA CREATED CARICATURES OF STRANGERS, STUCK IN OUR CONCRETE BOXES AND GLUED TO OUR COMPUTERS! GET A LIFE!!!!!!!! THERE ARE LIVING, BREATHING PEOPLE AROUND YOU AND WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF BECOMING THE MOST ISOLATED, INSECRURE, DEPRESSED, VAIN, AND MATERIALISTIC SOCIETY THAT HAS EVER POPULATED THIS PLANET! STOP THE MADNESS, APPRECIATE THIS AS ART AND COMMENTARY, AND GO BACK TO WHAT IS REAL.

Muse

Tricia and Not a breeder. This is my last post here so 14 forgive how long this is.You are correct that we women are not only brutal with each other but wea arelso our own worst enemy. We want to be treated as equals and yet we are not willing to assume responsibility for our own mistakes or choices. If we do not own our mistakes how we own our success and happiness. A man, cannot make a woman happy. That is something that she has to find from within. Just as Jennifer will find that Oscar will not make her happy , or Vince etc.

Huvane was the one who set her up with Brad. Was it love or career ambition? Or both. Jennifer is not the first woman to play at being the woman that the man wants to catch him in marriage. Brad has always made it known how much he was looking forward to have kids. Way before Jen was even in the picture. He and Jen were living together, so why get married? I remember interviews where right before they got married where they both talked about children and having soon. Then they got married and Jen told him wait 2 years which turned into 5.

I agree a woman should not be forced to have children. Some women should not have children. But that is something that a woman should communicates before and not after marriage. The issue of children is a non-negotiable in a marriage for it is something that both partners should be in agreement of BEFORE marriage.

A marriage is a partnership between two people. It should be a priority for both. Like in business , decisions that affect the partnership should be agreed on prior to the decision being made...The needs of one should not be sacrificed for the needs of other for to do so would undermine the partnership. Jennifer made the choice to ignore an agreement made prior to marriage and at the start of the marriage. She must have known that it at the expense of her marriage. If the roles were switched all you would cheering her leaving Brad for Vince .


Jennifer is in a race with time. If she had the talent she would have made it to Hollywood years ago when she started her acting career. But she doesn't. Unfairly, woman's careers are very short dwindling as they age. Marriage to Brad opened doors that are closed to others. It is a known fact in Hollywood that she has used and abused Brad's connections and contacts. Brad himself intervened to get her parts or save a movie.
But she is approaching 40.

Unfairly also, our ovaries have an expiration date. The older a woman gets, the harder it is to conceive and the more chances of defects. Jennifer wanted Oscar more than Junior.

That was her priority. It is her body. But was it fair that her husband who married her because she led him to believe that she wanted what he wanted specially "kids"; sacrifice any more years waiting on her to get her act together? I say NO.

If Dana Reeves death teaches us a lesson, it is that life is not predictable. It is never long enough and we never know when it is our timeto leave this world.

Jennifer and her best friend have both said that Brad did not cheat . Who are you to decide that he did? Assumptions are not valid in a court of law, either man's or God's.

I have no respect for Jen. Not because she chose her career over marriage and family. ( I did the opposite and though my children are the love my life. I was not left alone with millions of dollars and set for life.) I work 3 jobs to make ends meet and still be a hands on only parent. But I accept it because it was my choice of the wrong man and to have children.) But because she has used her divorce to further her career at the expense of her self-respect. She is a victim of her own ambitions. She is the one who chose her career over her husband. We all earn the life our choises bring us . Why should she be exempt.

As the mother of girls in high school and college. I do not want them to see themselves as or to ever play victim. Just as I want them to own their accomplishments and the ability to take care of themselves emotionally and financially; I also want them to assume accountability for mistakes eith in business or personal life. For it is the mistakes the will teach them the lessons they need to grow and prosper.

Angelina might not be someone I would connect with personally in my everyday life. But I respect that she has made terrible choises but has not let them cripple her or destroy her life, future of happiness. One has to live in a vacumn to not make mistakes. So why judge her for who she was 5-10 years ago? How fair is that. That is part of the growth process. We live in a disposable ADD world... It is sad that accountability and a sense of fairness are qualities that are either recognized, respected or expected. Without accountability one is destined to repeat mistakes amd keep the victim mentality. I am 53 years and I can vouch for that. Some of life's best lessons come at the expense of a lot of pain.

lauran

Maybe she did want a family just not with him. I mean and I'm quoting him from his vanity fair interview, he said it was not in our nature to be with one person your whole life. Why would anyone want a child with someone who by his own definition may leave when things "stop growing." What does that even mean, as long as both people are working on it, nothing should stop growing. To me, he seems very unstable and unaware of who he really is or what he really wants. Granted, none of us know him but from the statements he's made, it sounds like he may not be the man to really commit and want to stick around forever. I hope it's not the case, especially for Angelina's sake but obviously Jen knows him much better than Angie does at this point and maybe she knew something Angie does not. I would never want a child with someone who says it's not our nature to be with one person, what kind of family stability can he really offer. Just something to think about.

Morrigan


This has turned into quite a discourse! I'm lovin' every minute of it. I'm with Not a Breeder. Kids do not equal fulfillment for everyone. They definitely don't for me.

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